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]]> http://andrewsikora.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/willow-creek-reality/#comment-3927 rodney buchwalter Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:09:32 +0000 http://andrewsikora.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/willow-creek-reality/#comment-3927 i found quite interesting the topics at hand here. greg hawkins took service,classes,small groups,care,and oppertunity to serve as five key elements used by the american church to help people grow from there self describe spiritual journey to a more intimate deeper love for god and his people. through there research they found that it was the people who described themselfes as close to jesus,and jesus centered that where not reciveing the benifit of spiritual growth at the rate of the growing in jesus,and found jesus groups. but a question that comes to mind as we rethink church. does that mean that we shall no longer hold classes,services,small groups, care or provide opertunies to serve? or just less of them? does that mean that the love of christ isnt begin examplified in those elements. or is the love of christ being taught through those things but just not understood. is there clear lines of communcation between gods givers of the service and gods partications between his observers. how do we rethink church.how do we enable his servants,and equip them to be more mature in the relationship with jesus.if jesus is in all of those five elements of teaching the question becomes how much jesus? is it just something we do,and then sprinkle a little jesus into it or is it all about him. how do we know the anwser to these questions? where do we accuratly begin to find ways to become better teachers and showers of intimaicay with jesus? i found quite interesting the topics at hand here. greg hawkins took service,classes,small groups,care,and oppertunity to serve as five key elements used by the american church to help people grow from there self describe spiritual journey to a more intimate deeper love for god and his people. through there research they found that it was the people who described themselfes as close to jesus,and jesus centered that where not reciveing the benifit of spiritual growth at the rate of the growing in jesus,and found jesus groups. but a question that comes to mind as we rethink church. does that mean that we shall no longer hold classes,services,small groups, care or provide opertunies to serve? or just less of them? does that mean that the love of christ isnt begin examplified in those elements. or is the love of christ being taught through those things but just not understood. is there clear lines of communcation between gods givers of the service and gods partications between his observers. how do we rethink church.how do we enable his servants,and equip them to be more mature in the relationship with jesus.if jesus is in all of those five elements of teaching the question becomes how much jesus? is it just something we do,and then sprinkle a little jesus into it or is it all about him. how do we know the anwser to these questions? where do we accuratly begin to find ways to become better teachers and showers of intimaicay with jesus?

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